Character, some people have it, and some just talk about it! You've probably seen this one before, but it's always good to read it again about the military records (OR LACK thereof!)
DEMOCRATS:
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam. (Wounded-in-Action, WIA, he lost a leg!)
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII. (WIA)
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts. (WIA)
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam. Paraplegic from war injuries. Served in Congress. (WIA)
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart. (If this guy wasn't wia, he is one of the VERY few who served with the 173rd AB Regiment in VietNam who wasn't! The unit was famous for it's "hard-luck" status, meaning high incidence of action and casualties.)
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V. (To get the Combatr V-for Valor--you have to do something nearly worthy of a Silver Star!)
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam (LBJ's son-in-law, if he couldn't avoid service, who could?)
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and AirMedal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.
REPUBLICANS -- and these are the guys SENDING PEOPLE TO WAR:
* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve. (Got numerous deferments, even after he was kicked out of Baylor University for drunkenness and frivolity--he was known as "Hot Tub Tom")
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve. (Bush's Machiavelli)
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve. Neocon warhawk
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve. Neocon warhawk
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Vietnam POW, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Remember how the Bush campaign trashed him in the Republican primaries in 2000?
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem, " although continued in NFL for 8 years as quarterback.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
Pundits & Preachers These are the flag-wavers and stalwarts of the "American Way"
* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve.
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* John Wayne: did not serve. (He was 34 when WW2 began for the US, made movies extolling the American spirit and willingness to make the soldier's ultimate sacrifice)
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
* Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)
Information compiled by: Illinois State Sen. Howard W. Carroll (Yes, he is a Democrat, but the information is still accurate!)
So, it seems the Democrats have numerous veterans and medal-winners, veterans of WW2, Korea and VietNam. Undoubtedly, there were Republican Veterans, in years past, like Bob Dole, for instance, but they seem not to have risen to prominence in today's political arena. Notice the pattern, those who wave the flag most furiously and claim to be "patriots" also never bothered to put words into action? Those who have BEEN THERE are labelled "liberals" as a way to minimize them and marginalize their experiences. Doesn't that remind you of the schoolyard bully, who "acted out", as psychologists say, because he was secretly envious of others, or perhaps might have been in the "closet" about his feelings for others of the same sex, or had been seriously abused at home. Whatever the reason, the flag-wavers and the self-styled patriots have been careful to avoid military service, but are quick to delegate others to do their dirty work, and make the sacrifices. Personally, I have come to agree with the well-known Sci-Fi writer, Robert Heinlein, who opined that citizenship, and the attendent right to vote, ought to be conditional on military service. I think it could be made mandatory, like the Israelis do it, on a much shorter time span than the old draft and with the severe restriction on the military that these forces were NOT to be used to experiment on, or use as world peace-keeping forces, or any other use like VietNam or Iraq. I think Trent Lott, Tom DeLay and Sean Hannity would ALL have VERY DIFFERENT points of view had they had the opportunity to walk down a few of the trails I, and a great many others, travelled in the late, unlamented Republic of VietNam! Next time you hear Rush, or Sean, or Ann Coulter bad-mouthing the "liberals", you stop a minute to think JUST WHO it was in the trenches, jungles and deserts, ACTUALLY defending FREEDOM, and WHO stayed home. We had a name for those who stayed home, it was JODY, as in "Jody's gonna get your girl", or even worse, less-flattering actions. No one in the military had a very high opinion of those who were labelled Jody, and that goes for all those who today claim to be PATRIOTS, without any evidence of their having DONE ANYTHING patriotic!
31 comments:
Wow...what a great entry. I always knew they were lacking but never how bad...that is an extremely poor record for the Republicans. I wonder how the joint cheifs can deal with their political nonsense? Oh congrats on getting nominated, I like your journal...Sandi http://journals.aol.com/sdoscher458/LifeIsFullOfSurprises
Fantastic!!! Ya know you do need to compile a manuscript and get a column in a well known Newspaper! Hell we should just start our own!!! I loved this Bruce...keep it coming!
Peace
Jodi
I'M A PROGRESSIVE AND - YES - I WAS THERE, TOO. BUT IT ALL FAIRNESS, I WAS DRAFTED.
Well said also true and to the point my father served one tour in Korea also three tours in Viet Nam all to come home to die of Asian Orange but he served his country and this is what war really is when will peace ever come along? Your writing is brilliant with so many sides of you also that I am amazed every piece that you write about.I love the humor,compassion that you have also the articles,poetry and so much more all in one person you are a wonderfull man.
One of your best entries. Shared it with my husband and sons.
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Wow... Nicely done! I also shared it with husband.
Best,
Judith
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Just read you for the first time but not the last. I like the way you think. Ya got MY vote for sure! Congratulations.
Dianna
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This is my first time reading your journal.....i just finished reading this, and The Sixties and I'm ready to more on to another! lol Your absolutely right....we all saw 'this before'-BUT-it's always good to look at it again, to remind us that most of our leaders, HAVE NOT SERVED! And i didn't get the full impact, until i read them all at once! Thanx for helping me be more aware. ~Diane~
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Congrats on the VIVA nomination. Good Luck!
What about Bush V1? I think he was the youngest pilot to be shot down in WWII and was picked up by a US Submarine about 15 minutes later. Or something like that, the Bush's are very proud of that story I guess. Gosh the amount of coincidences that worked out amazingly beneficial for the Bush family is truly frightening, isn't it? I was not in the Military myself, though had I been drafted I'd have been proud to serve. I went to see a Marine Recruiter, my father who'd served in WWII and Korea with the Navy was not too happy about that. He actually told me that he didn't think the military was something I'd be "suitable" for. Who knows?
Just to mention a couple of Republicans that seem to have been left off the list, Eisenhower, Nixon and Colin Powell come to mind. Interestingly, to me at least, the lack of willingness to accept duty after joining exhibited by our current President hasn't been dimmed one bit by the passage of time, the job required or the impact inflicted, has it?
I only hope that somehow the name Bush becomes as vilified in American History as Benedict Arnold, Aaron Burr, Jefferson Davis or Joe McCarthy. Hey a guy can hope.
Robert
You have hit the nail right on the head! In the list of people who never served, it also seems to be a list of people who are now serving "special intererests" (their own) instead of the interests of this country and the American people.
Terry Hogan
I came by to give my congratulations on your nomination.
And leave with a large Hmmmm thats just sad in my thoughts.........
Rebecca
What the difference between a democrat and a republican during election?
Absolutely nothing that I can think of, they act the same to me.
Great entry but upon reading this I get the impression you are a republican, are you?
I'm neither I consider myself independent instead.
Great Entry.
-Kristina
Clapping! Congrats on your Vivi nomination!
Thanks for that list. I've heard about it, never seen it. Very scary. And more congrats on your nomination. Mrs. L
WOW Your journal should have been listed under political.
Dawn
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I cannot seem to get enough of you. Hurry and write more...
Lane aka Ms. Smith
Woo hoo - congrats on the Vivi nod!! Nice entry - just figures doesn't it? ;)
~ Lori
GREAT entry! I linked it to my journal, hope you don't mind...congrats on your nomination for the VIVI's~ma~
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